Agenda and minutes

Pension Committee
Tuesday, 15th March, 2016 2.30 pm

Venue: CC2, County Hall, Lewes. View directions

Contact: Harvey Winder  Democratic Services Officer

No. Item




1.1       The minutes of the previous meeting were agreed.


Apologies for absence


2.1       Cllr Tutt sent his apologies for this meeting.


Disclosure of Interests

Disclosures by all Members present of personal interests in matters on the agenda, the nature of any interest and whether the Members regard the interest as prejudicial under the terms of the Code of Conduct.



3.1       Cllr Daniel declared as a personal interest as a member of the East Sussex pension scheme.


Urgent items

Notification of items which the Chair considers to be urgent and proposes to take at the appropriate part of the agenda.



4.1       There were none.


Any other non-exempt items previously notified under agenda item 4


5.1       There were none.


Exclusion of the press and public

To consider excluding the public and press from the meeting for the remaining agenda item on the grounds that if the public and press were present there would be disclosure to them of exempt information as specified in paragraph 3 of Part 1 of the Local Government Act 1972 (as amended), namely information relating to the financial or business affairs of any particular person (including the authority holding that information).



6.1       It was agreed that the press and public should be excluded from the meeting.


Pensions Administration system


7.1       This item was introduced by Kevin Foster, Chief Operating Officer.


7.2       The Chief Operating Officer explained that prior officer actions in regard to this contract had been based on the assumption that the decision on contract renewal would be taken by officers under delegated authority. Had it been recognised that this was to be a member decision, the matter would have been handled differently, with Pension Committee members involved at a much earlier stage.

7.3       It is no longer practically possible to move directly to a new provider as there is no time to run-in a new system. In any case, for service reasons, the officer recommendation at this point would be to sign a new contract with Heywood in order to support the focus on service and performance improvements in the short term.

7.4       At the previous Pension Committee special meeting, members requested officers to seek a 3 year contract dealOfficers have negotiated a 3 year contract deal option within a 5 year overall contract deal. This option is activated through exercising a negotiated break clause after 3 or 4 years.. Activating either of these breaks would incur penalties, but these have been set with the best overall commercial terms possible , and the addition of breaks has been achieved without increasing the overall contract price. The Chief Operating Officer told members that he believed the current deal was the best that could be negotiated, and that it shows considerable movement by Heywood from their original decision.

7.5       The Chief Operating Officer told members that Orbis Business Operations will work closely with the Pension Committee from an early stage in the new contract to ensure that the Committee is in a position to make future decisions at an early enough point for all options to be viable.


7.6 It was resolved that the Pension Committee should:


1.    Note that the current Pensions Administration system licence ends on 31 March 2016 and there is a need for a consecutive licence contract in order to ensure the continuation of pensions administration service to the East Sussex Pensions Fund (ESPF).


2.    Note that the only option available is to approve a new contract with the current provider, using the current system in order to deliver a continuity of service.


3.    Note that officers have negotiated the best terms available that ensure both continuity of service and flexibility to respond to changes in the Pensions Administration systems market.


4.    Approve a new five year contract between East Sussex County Council and Heywood (including break clauses which give the ESPF the flexibility to exit the contract after three or four years).


5.    Request that the Business Operations service take an active role, with the support of procurement, working on management of the supplier relationship with Heywood and the quality of service delivery.


6.    Request that the Business Operations service work with the Pensions Committee to re-assess the market two years prior to each break clause (i.e. at one, two and three years  ...  view the full minutes text for item 7.


Any other exempt items previously notified under agenda item 4